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« on: March 03, 2010, 05:48:59 AM »



Northwest at risk of megaquake like one in Chile
 
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_CHILE_EARTHQUAKE_US_DANGER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-03-02-14-29-20
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 06:09:12 AM »

 iagreearticle from Cobalts link above, good find, thx

 March 2, 2010

                                  Northwest at risk of megaquake like one in Chile


By ALICIA CHANG
AP Science Writer


Just 50 miles off the Pacific Northwest coast is an earthquake hotspot that threatens to unleash on Seattle, Portland and Vancouver the kind of damage that has shattered Chile.

The fault has been dormant for more than 300 years, but when it awakens — tomorrow or decades from now — the consequences could be devastating.

Recent computer simulations of a hypothetical magnitude-9 quake found that shaking could last 2 to 5 minutes — strong enough to potentially cause poorly constructed buildings from British Columbia to Northern California to collapse and severely damage highways and bridges.

Such a quake would also send powerful tsunami waves rushing to shore in minutes. While big cities such as Portland and Seattle would be protected from severe flooding, low-lying seaside communities may not be as lucky.

The Pacific Northwest "has a long geological history of doing exactly what happened in Chile," said Brian Atwater, a geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey and University of Washington. "It's not a matter of if but when the next one will happen."

The last one hit in 1700, a magnitude-9 that sent 30- to 40-foot-tall tsunami waves crashing onto the coast and racing across the Pacific, damaging Japanese coastal villages.

There's an 80 percent chance the southern end of the fault off southern Oregon and Northern California would break in the next 50 years and produce a megaquake, according to Chris Goldfinger, who heads the Active Tectonics and Seafloor Mapping Laboratory at Oregon State University.

Research presented last year at a seismology conference found that Seattle high-rises built before 1994, when stricter building codes took effect, were at high risk of collapse during a superquake.

Disaster managers in Oregon and Washington are aware of the risks, and work is ongoing to shore up schools, hospitals and other buildings to withstand a seismic jolt.

"We're definitely being proactive in trying to get those fixed, but we have a long way to go," said Yumei Wang, geohazards team leader with the Oregon Department of Geology and Mineral Industries.

Oregon has 1,300 schools and public safety buildings that are at high risk of collapse during a major quake. The state recently doled out $15 million to two dozen schools and emergency facilities to start the retrofit process. State law requires that all poorly built public safety buildings be upgraded by 2022 and public schools by 2032.

The state is also helping its coastal communities — home to 100,000 residents — plan for vertical evacuation buildings that could withstand giant tsunami waves.

Seattle plans to retrofit its 34 fire stations. The city is also working on a plan to upgrade 600 buildings considered most at risk.

"We have been preparing aggressively," said Barb Graff, who heads the city's Office of Emergency Management.

Chile and the Pacific Northwest are part of several seismic hotspots around the globe where plates of the Earth's crust grind and dive. These so-called subduction zones give rise to mountain ranges, ocean trenches and volcanic arcs, but also spawn the largest quakes on the planet.

The magnitude-8.8 Chile quake occurred in an offshore region that was under increased stress caused by a 1960 magnitude-9.5 quake — the largest recorded in history, according to geologist Jian Lin of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

The temblor destroyed or badly damaged 500,000 homes and killed more than 700 people.

Similar tectonic forces are at play off the Pacific Northwest, where the Juan de Fuca plate is diving beneath North America. At some point, centuries of pent-up stress in the Cascadia subduction zone will cause the plates to slip. Scientists cannot predict when a quake will occur, only that one will happen.

The region is all too familiar with violent earthquakes. In 2001, a 6.8-magnitude quake centered near Olympia, Wash., rattled a swath of the Pacific Northwest, but remarkably caused no deaths. While it was not the type of quake that hit Chile, it was a reminder of how a big disaster could strike at any time.

To better understand megaquakes, a group of scientists planned to travel to Chile in May for a conference on giant earthquakes and their tsunamis. There are field trips planned to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the 1960 Chile quake.

 
FILE - In this Sunday, Feb. 28, 2010 file photo, people walk past a collapsed building in Concepcion, Chile. The disaster in Chile has brought new attention to an undersea fault along the Pacific Northwest capable of producing the same type of mega earthquake and inflicting heavy damage on bustling cities like Seattle, Portland and Vancouver. (AP Photo/ Natacha Pisarenko)
 
Map locates the Juan de Fuca seismic plate off the Pacific Northwest.

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 06:56:31 AM »

click G. Ure link for his Charts


                                A Bigger Problem than the Economy?

                                         Disturbing Quake Trends


March 2, 2010
George Ure
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My friend Tony Ring has been slicing and dicing earthquake data again...and his latest charts give all the more reason to expect that our "4-5 more Great Quakes" forecast for this year will come to pass.

Consider these charts, starting with the count of quakes is going down:


 

BUT! While the count is going down the Average Magnitude is going UP!


But the MOST worrisome is the number of 6.0 and is going where?




I hope you saw where the "Chile quake may have tipped Earth's axis" which obviously could set off a whole series of follow-on quakes, so the linguistics - which may have seemed far-out in January when I told you about them - are now coming into focus as something to get serious about planning for. Have you done any real quake prepping?

And then there's the ugly question I should repeat: How many countries can be severely shaken without busting the global economy? What would an 8.0 do in India, Taiwan, or Japan...nations that the US depends on to support its formerly lavish lifestyle that's already receding?

Remember the Chilean quake may have agricultural and food impacts when you're debating about whether to put in a garden this year.

Quake Fallout: Broken Promises

Also, we're hearing back-channel (informally) from relief group sources that a number of countries which said they would step up with aid for Haiti are not coming through on their promises, but the MSM isn't saying anything about it because it would not be 'PC' and might embarrass a few countries. As it should.

Meantime, Chile is scrambling to get aid distributed. The good news: Thanks to good engineering of buildings, the Chilean quake which was what, 500 times larger than Haiti's? Has only resulted in around 700-800 deaths, at least so far.

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Friends up in Okie-lahoma are wondering about the 4.1 shaker up at Sparks on Saturday. My imagination, or is something moving in mid-continent?

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We still have either four or five great quakes to go this year (either Haiti-sized loss of life or over 8.0) depending on how you read the predictive linguistics. But headlines cause a certain kind of 'echo-effect' too, so wer;ll just count as they come.

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm 



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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 09:01:54 PM »

Anyone else notice that the PNW has been unusually quiet when all hell is breaking loose all along the Pacific Rim?
another 6.1 off of Chile this hour, Valparaiso.
 My feeling is that we will get a Chilean sized quake in the PNW this year, the megathrust areas are identical, and everything else has been shaking, so something has got to give
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 05:16:12 PM »

And from what I've read on a certain "conspiracy" site....there's been quite a bit of ocean floor mapping in the area.

I'm in agreement with you...except for one thing.

The Pac NW has an active subduction zone (San Juan de Fuca) that is pulling the pressure load away from a hard shake.  Unless....

I still can't shake the thought on this  subject.  The Pac Plate is gonna break. Don't know where yet.  The indicators are in place.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 09:10:44 PM »

Miriam Delicado has posted up a quake warning on her website and forum, sounds like a Japan warning and a Pacific Northwest warning.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 02:58:36 AM »

Miriam Delicado has posted up a quake warning on her website and forum, sounds like a Japan warning and a Pacific Northwest warning.
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 039 Thanks Mizar

Earthquake coming again! North America Japan area
By Miriam     March 8, 2010 at 10:28 pm    Miriam's Blog
http://www.bluestarprophecy.com/earthquake-coming-again-north-america-japan-area/

I am feeling the movement of the earth again.Yes… again. I have been banging into walls for two days. Today I felt swaying that means it is closer to me. Also it was a strong swaying feeling and that says the quake will be strong. I tell you this so that you can prepare. Water, batteries, plan the basics. Know that if you stay calm you will be safer then if you hold fear. Also, I think it will be in North America or across the water from where I am in BC, maybe Japan area. One thing I know is that it will be closer to ME than some of the last quakes. So, hold calm and send it to the earths heart. This will happen within the next four – five days. Love Miriam
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 01:35:58 PM »

 
MAP  4.1   2010/03/12 18:30:01    44.463   -129.227  40.7   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP  3.3  2010/03/12 15:34:04 40.738 -125.380 16.6 96 km ( 60 mi) W of Ferndale, CA
MAP  3.6  2010/03/12 10:23:58 40.187 -121.330 8.3 13 km ( 8 mi) WSW of Almanor, CA
MAP  3.6  2010/03/12 10:23:58 40.187 -121.330 8.3 13 km ( 8 mi) WSW of Almanor, CA
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 11:43:28 AM »

A hit for Miriam, a 5.9 ocurred in Japan this morning.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2010, 04:41:20 PM »

Lunar Tidal Stress advisory this weekend, Full Moon Monday March 29.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 07:34:22 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/opinion/28yanev.html?src=me

Shake, Rattle, Seattle
By PETER YANEV
 
AS an engineer who advises companies on how to make their buildings survive earthquakes, I have visited the aftermath of nearly every key quake since 1970, observing how new and old buildings have performed when the ground shook beneath them. I try to learn from each new disaster how to change our design techniques, construction practices and building codes to reduce future losses of life and damage. From my perspective, the shock that hit Chile in February was the most important earthquake of the last 100 years.

It was the first mega-quake, its magnitude near 9, to strike a developed country with rigorous building codes. Modern cities full of state-of-the-art buildings were tested by intense ground-shaking that lasted about 120 seconds — compared to about 40 seconds for the 1906 and 20 seconds for the 1989 San Francisco earthquakes, which had magnitudes of 7.9 and 6.9, respectively. Despite Chile’s exacting construction codes, which often exceed those of California and Japan, the performance of numerous high-rise buildings was worryingly poor.

We engineers and seismologists need to gather and study as much data as we can from Chile’s quake. But one thing is already clear: based on the kind of damage that buildings suffered in Chile, tall structures in the earthquake zones of the United States appear to be at much higher risk than we thought. This lesson should be of obvious concern to San Francisco and Los Angeles. But it is actually the Pacific Northwest that is most vulnerable to a mega-quake like Chile’s.

Just off Northern California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia sits the 600-mile-long Cascadia fault. Like the Nazca tectonic plate that caused the quake and tsunami in Chile, Cascadia can produce temblors with magnitudes of 9 or greater, more powerful than anything we’ve experienced or expect from California’s famous San Andreas fault.

Cascadia’s last mega-quake, in January 1700, was approximately as large as Chile’s; it caused a tsunami that pummeled Japan. Many seismologists believe the Pacific Northwest is overdue for another mega-quake. Yet in cities like Seattle, Vancouver and Portland, Ore., hardly any building is designed to withstand such a huge jolt.

That is precisely why it is so important to understand what happened in Chile, which has a history of huge earthquakes. The previous one, in 1960, had a magnitude of 9.5 and caused widespread destruction. Chileans responded with better construction codes, better structural and earthquake engineering; buildings were made with massive reinforced concrete frames and backed by numerous reinforced concrete walls, called shear walls. However, over the last decade, more fanciful architecture and financial pressure to reduce costs have resulted in new buildings with fewer and more slender shear walls.

In Concepción, an industrial city closer to the epicenter, those terrifying two minutes left 20 percent of buildings 15 or more stories tall damaged beyond repair. Most of the failed buildings were new; several were still for sale. These buildings had fewer shear walls than older Chilean structures, but they were still stiffer and stronger than many buildings in California.

Another major lesson comes out of Santiago, an area of relatively weak shaking. There, a large, high-end office development called Ciudad Empresarial was still under construction when the quake hit. Again, the buildings of Ciudad Empresarial were a lot like trendy offices in Silicon Valley, cheaper and more flexible than the structural designs usually found in Chile.

The buildings themselves were largely undamaged, or suffered only moderate damage. But many of the interior architectural features — suspended ceilings, expensive finishes, interior partitions, heating and ventilating equipment, air-conditioning ducts and some of the water piping — were utterly destroyed. If the earthquake had occurred during the workday, the damage would have caused many casualties.

Construction codes are based on the probability of earthquakes striking a region. That means Seattle’s buildings, for example, are designed for roughly half of the earthquake loads of buildings in San Francisco or Los Angeles, because earthquakes occur roughly half as often in Seattle as in California’s cities. But the result is that Pacific Northwest cities are full of buildings with slender structural frames and fewer and smaller shear walls. In a mega-quake, many of the region’s iconic tall buildings would probably collapse. The loss of life and property from such a disaster would be far worse than the damage and death suffered in Chile.

It is only a matter of time before a quake like the one in 1700 happens again in the Pacific Northwest — perhaps tomorrow, or not for 20, 50, 100 years. We do not know that precisely. But we do know that the earthquake will happen. Are we ready? No, we are not. Not in California, and definitely not in the Pacific Northwest.

Peter Yanev, the author of “Peace of Mind in Earthquake Country,” runs a structural engineering and earthquake consulting firm.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 07:47:12 PM »

Good Post Shy,  here I sit in the PNW, with a Lunar Tidal stress advisory for the next three days.
  I agree with everything in the article, it is going to be a rude awakening indeed when the PNW changes into Haiti and Chile overnight.
  What else can I do but prep some more?
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 11:58:27 AM »


MAP 5.1 2010/05/07 17:46:17    44.407 -129.339  28.7   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON 
MAP 4.5 2010/05/06 23:12:33    48.326 -127.847  10.0   VANCOUVER ISLAND, CANADA REGION
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 12:59:35 PM »

Good Post Shy, we had a 2.0 this week on land, just a few miles from where I sit.  Definately more activity now.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 11:06:53 AM »


 
MAP 4.4 2010/05/07 20:02:19    44.496 -129.418  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 3.9 2010/05/07 19:15:59    44.527 -130.659  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 4.3 2010/05/07 19:03:31    44.536 -129.557  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 4.4 2010/05/07 18:55:04    44.508 -130.052  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 4.2 2010/05/07 18:51:00    44.490 -129.557  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 3.9 2010/05/07 18:48:37    44.458 -129.107  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 4.5 2010/05/07 18:43:08    44.456 -129.410  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
MAP 4.4 2010/05/07 18:41:55    44.407 -129.456  10.0   OFF THE COAST OF OREGON


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