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« on: February 13, 2010, 01:05:56 AM »

http://topics.al.com/tag/UAH%20shooting/index.html

        3 Dead, and 3 seriously injured.



Here are all the news link for the UAH/ Univ. Ala. Huntsville  shooting,  there are 2 pages and listed as a timeline.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 07:24:19 PM »

Amy Bishop shot and killed her teenage brother in the chest with a shotgun in 1986, he was an accomplished Violinist, anyone remember that story?  She was 19 at the time, he was 18. shot him 3 times.  Shooting was later declared accidental after intervention by the Chief of Police at the time.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 01:34:11 AM »

THREE TIMES ??
....and it was declared an 'accident' Huh?
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 04:46:04 PM »

What? 

That was no accident.  I hope the judicial system sees this during trial.  3 dead people doesn't even come close to an "oops".
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 05:08:55 PM »

(From what I understand, a couple of the previous posts are incorrect. The incident with her brother in 1986 was ruled accidental. Some reports indicate that she fired the shotgun three times, but he was only hit once. And the latest incident, at the University, which resulted in 3 dead victims, is NOT being called an accident. Just trying to clarify...)

Entire article is here:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/14/alabama.university.shooting/?hpt=T1

Report details '86 shooting involving Alabama professor
February 14, 2010 5:39 p.m. EST

(CNN) -- A biology professor charged with killing three faculty members at the University of Alabama in Huntsville fatally shot her brother more than 23 years ago, but she and her mother claimed the shooting was accidental, according to documents released Sunday.

Amy Bishop Anderson was 19 when she fatally shot her brother, Seth, on December 6, 1986, in Braintree, Massachusetts, according to a Massachusetts State Police report released Sunday. She was never charged in that shooting.

Anderson was charged this weekend with capital murder in Friday's on-campus shooting deaths of her colleagues. She could face the death penalty.

The state police report in the 1986 shooting, released by the office of U.S. Rep. Bill Delahunt, D-Massachusetts, gives an account similar to a Boston Globe story published on December 8, 2008. Delahunt was district attorney at the time; staffers said he was in the Middle East on Sunday and unable to comment on the case.

Earlier this weekend, Braintree police said records from that shooting were missing, and that the department's log indicated the shooting was accidental. However, Police Chief Paul Frazier said he didn't agree with the Globe's account.

The Globe's story stated that Anderson asked her mother how to unload a round from a 12-gauge shotgun and that Anderson -- then known as Amy Bishop -- accidentally shot her brother while she was handling the weapon. The article cited then-Police Chief John Polio as the source.

According to the state police report released Sunday, Braintree police told state police that "indications were that Amy Bishop had been attempting to manipulate the shotgun and had subsequently brought the gun downstairs in an attempt to gain assistance from her mother in disarming the weapon" when it went off, shooting her brother, Seth, in the chest.

But, Frazier said Saturday, "it is a far different story I believe than what was reported back then. I cannot tell you what the thought process was behind our releasing her at the time."

An officer then involved in the case who is still working for the department told him that Anderson shot her brother during an argument, Frazier said.

The officer said Anderson allegedly fired a shot in her bedroom without hitting anyone, argued with her brother, shot him and then fired another round in the home before fleeing, according to Frazier.


Frazier said the teen was arrested after pointing a weapon at a vehicle near the house in an attempt to get the driver to stop, but it drove on. But during the booking process, then-Chief Polio called and told the officers to release her, Frazier said. He said her mother was at the time a member of the Braintree Personnel Board.

In a telephone call with CNN, Polio, now 87 and retired, denied ever calling in the order. He said detectives including lead investigator Capt. Theodore Buker -- who has since died -- had interviewed Anderson and her mother, Judith, who is identified in the state police report as J. Bishop.

Buker told him that the shooting appeared accidental and the two men agreed she should be released to her mother, Polio said. A request was then filed with Delahunt's office to conduct an inquiry, but Delahunt never did so, he said.

The state police report, however, said that Buker met with a state police investigator and determined that "due to the testimony of the members of the Bishop family, and in particular the testimony of J. Bishop, relevant to the facts concerning the death of Seth Bishop that no further investigation ... was warranted," the report concludes. Seth Bishop's death was listed as accidental and the investigation was concluded.

Delahunt spokesman Mark Forest told CNN the state police and medical examiner concluded the death was accidental, and an autopsy was also conducted. "The investigative reports ... did not recommend any further action," he said in an e-mail. Those reports were turned over to state and local authorities, including the district attorney's office, he said.

Anderson's mother witnessed the shooting, the state police report said. Investigators waited 11 days to interview Anderson and her parents because of their "highly emotional state" following the shooting, according to the report.

In the December 17, 1986, interview, Anderson told authorities she "thought it would be a good idea if she learned how to load the shotgun in the house," according to the state police report. The young woman told police she was concerned for her own safety after the family home was broken into, although she previously had been afraid of the gun.

She said she got the gun and loaded shells into it, but was unable to get them out. Anderson said that while she was attempting to unload the weapon on her bed, it went off. She then took it downstairs to ask for help in unloading it. She asked her brother, she said, and he told her to point the gun up instead of carrying it beside her leg. Her brother was walking across the kitchen between her and her mother, she said. She started to raise the gun, and "someone said something to her," she recalled in the report. She turned and the gun went off.

"Amy thought that she had ruined the kitchen but was not aware of the fact that she had struck her brother," the report said. She fled, and told police she thought she had dropped the gun as she ran away. "She cannot recall anything else until she subsequently saw her mother at the police station," the report said. The report does not reference any other shots fired besides the one in Anderson's bedroom and the shot that struck her brother.

Anderson's father was not home at the time. He told police he had had a disagreement with his daughter "about a comment she had made" before he left to go shopping. He told police he had bought the shotgun about a year before the shooting, after the house had been broken into, and that he and his son belonged to a rifle club. Anderson was not trained to use the gun, he said.

Anderson's mother said that when her daughter came downstairs and asked for help in unloading the gun, she told her not to point it at anyone, and that her daughter turned and the gun went off. The woman told police she did not hear the shotgun fire earlier in her daughter's bedroom and "believed the house was relatively well soundproofed and that such a discharge would not necessarily be heard on another floor of the house."

Polio acknowledged that an argument had occurred during the shooting and said that the other shots, including one fired into the ceiling, did not appear aimed at anyone. He also recalled that Anderson had fled the scene. But, he said, he could not remember what he had told the newspaper in reference to the case or why details, including the argument, were not reported.

He said Anderson's mother had worked for the personnel board and at one point was assigned to the police department. But he rejected as "laughable" any suggestions that the suspect's mother might have influenced their handling of the case.

"There was no cover-up," Polio said. "Absolutely no cover-up and no missing records. The records were all there when I left. Where they went in the last 22 years and two police chiefs subsequent, I don't know."

The Braintree shooting resurfaced after Harvard-trained Anderson was charged in Friday's shooting in Alabama. Huntsville Police Chief Henry Reyes said Saturday that Anderson was attending a faculty meeting on the third floor of the sciences building Friday afternoon when she brandished a gun and shot six colleagues, killing three.

Anderson, a professor and researcher at the university and a mother of four, was arrested as she was leaving the building, Reyes told reporters Saturday. He said a 9 mm handgun was recovered from the second floor of the building late Friday.

Madison County District Attorney Rob Broussard said officials were considering other charges, including attempted murder. Authorities have not ruled out the possibility of other suspects in connection to the shooting.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 05:38:49 PM »

Oh man...I missed your post, BG. 

You mean to tell me this is the same person?

WTH?Huh? 
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 06:45:41 PM »

Thanks for the excellent clarification Lynx. however if you are the victim, getting one blast to the chest or three, doesn't change the outcome.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2010, 07:23:48 PM »

There's more;
  Amy Bishop was a suspect in the attempted mail b@mbing of a Harvard Medical Professor in December of 1993, reported by the Boston Globe today.  The  item was delivered but not detonated.
  How did this Walking Talking two legged crime wave get a permit to carry a weapon?
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 07:50:18 PM »

Quote from Amy, as she was getting into the Police Cruiser;
"It didn't happen, there's no way, they are still alive"
from an article in the San Francisco Chronicle titled;
Ala. Prof.s Family, friends, no hint of Violence.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, a documented history of;
 discharging a shotgun in the house three times, and one of those killed your brother with whom you had just had an argument.
 Send an e%plosive device to someone you had an argument with!
 No hint of Violence?
 There's two small hints right there,
  I can't believe these people are voters.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2010, 08:59:12 PM »

Thanks for the excellent clarification Lynx. however if you are the victim, getting one blast to the chest or three, doesn't change the outcome.
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Ain't that the truth, though.

Interesting about the mail bomb attempt. Hadn't seen any mention of that before.

Do you know for sure she had a permit to carry a weapon?
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 09:40:04 PM »

Have no idea if she had a carry permit, just assuming that a law abiding educated university person would maybe be inclined to follow some rules.
If she did, the permit process is flawed,
if she didn't, the premise that only outlaws will have guns is supported.
Either way, body count stays the same for the dead and injured, would someone somewhere please lock this person up?
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 05:50:11 AM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,585854,00.html

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Alleged University Shooter Was Suspect in Harvard Professor Bomb Attempt




Sunday , February 14, 2010



An Alabama professor accused of shooting six colleagues was a suspect in the attempted mail bombing of a Harvard Medical School professor in December of 1993, the Boston Globe reported.

Amy Bishop and her husband James Anderson were questioned by authorities after a package with two bombs   017  was sent to Dr. Paul Rosenberg, the newspaper reported.

When Rosenberg saw the long, thin package had wires and a cylinder inside, he and his wife called police and ran from their Newton, Mass. home Dec. 19, 1993, the Globe reported.

Two 6-inch pipe bombs connected to two nine-volt batteries were found in the package.

The new information comes a day after information surfaced that Bishop killed her brother.
The 1986 shooting was ruled accidental and no charges were filed against her. 017

Bishop, who has four children, was arrested soon after the violent Friday shooting at the University of Alabama and charged with capital murder. Other charges are pending.

 Her husband was detained and questioned by police but has not been charged.

Three of her colleagues were killed in shooting, and a 9 mm handgun was found in the bathroom of the building where the shootings occurred.

Bishop, a rare  017   woman suspected of a workplace shooting, had just months left teaching at school in Huntsville because she was denied tenure.

Several months after a federal investigation into the Harvard medical professor's attempted bombing a prime suspect was identified, but never named. 017

An unnamed law enforcement official told the Globe Sunday the suspect was Bishop,   and her husband.

At the time, Bishop was a Harvard doctoral student working at the same hospital as Rosenberg.

The official told the Globe Bishop was suspected because she was allegedly concerned she was going to be given a bad evaluation from the professor on her doctorate work.

Her house was searched and she and her husband were questioned, but the U.S. attorney's office in Boston never brought charges against the couple, the Globe reported.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Click here to read more on this story from the Boston Globe.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/02/ala_slay_suspec.html


 
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 06:03:17 AM »

In the Boston.com article, it said she was writting a novel on her computer, plot was a girl who had killed her brother and was going to making amends by becoming a great doctor.


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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 06:21:32 AM »

http://topics.al.com/tag/UAH%20shooting/index.html


This link is the Al. Huntsville Times newspaper with all their coverage of this story.


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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 07:00:03 PM »

More again, all bad, now it seems her Husband had accompanied her to the target range so she could get some target practice with her new pistol.
  No weapons permit was issued to her, and her Husband says he never questioned her about how she got the handgun.
  Oh yeah, she was also taking prescription SSRI's
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